No Good Will Come of It by Phillip Hoyle

Today’s topic—‘no good will come of it’—seemed an apt description of my search for a story even though I started looking for an approach two weeks ago. At first consideration the theme sounded to me like Cassandra’s warning to the good citizens of Troy in the Iliad, “Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.” Homer could easily have added, “No good will come of it,” without any change to his character or plot. I didn’t pursue this image, for to view my life as a tragedy didn’t easily fit my personality. I felt stymied by the topic that seemed to go nowhere.

I began my search again on Tuesday morning and found myself wandering through empty hallways of my memory—no furnishing wanted to seat such a saying, no picture offered potential to my storytelling. Still I walked around in the space peeking into corners and around projections, peering out windows and down stairwells, opening doors and slamming them shut in frustration. Finding a story seemed hopeless.

Come Wednesday I considered what I saw as a great contrast between my parents: Dad, who was more of the “No good will come of it” school; Mom, who was more of the “Every cloud has a silver lining” school. I saw easily how I was more like my mom, but the insight offered no story I hadn’t told before. Besides, my parents’ lives were much more than a single contrast. Both believed in the power of learning and education. I’m sure Mom had her challenges that made some days seem just plain gloomy and Dad held out hope that his kids would live meaningful lives.

Surely both Mom and Dad deemed my education effective when in eighth grade I began reading with a voracious appetite, a result of my discovery of historical novels in the junior high library. My interest in American history was spurred on by the dramatic telling and the presence of Native American characters. As a developing bibliophile I supplemented assigned books with stacks of novels throughout high school, five years of college, and over five years of graduate education. I read with a preference for comedy but in the process took in many tragedies, stories from many cultures told from many perspectives. Finally I discovered novels written by American Indian authors and by gay and lesbian authors. Then I read more and more. A Canadian friend sent me books by Canadians such as Thomas King and Annie Proulx. I felt thankful that my vocation as a minister supported the idea that I continue learning in order to be an effective teacher and leader. My library grew, but of course, some books I did not place on the shelves in my church office.

I easily preferred reading a book over viewing a movie, even a cinema made from a book. So when I heard talk that a movie was being developed from a story by Annie Proulx, I went in search of the tale at the library and found “Brokeback Mountain” in a collection of Wyoming-themed short stories. I read “Brokeback Mountain” with interest and then the rest of the stories in the book. One word seemed to describe them all: bleak. Such a mood had permeated her novels. I wondered how this movie would turn out. When it showed at the Mayan Theatre I attended with my partner. I was so moved that at the end of the movie I had to stay through the credits to weep. Eventually we left the theater. Wanting to see just how closely the movie script and editing followed the story, I purchased the collection and was amazed at how accurately it tracked and how freedoms taken in the movie interpreted the story with amazing clarity.

While discussing the show with a minister friend I discovered my view contrasted greatly with his. At the end of the movie I had felt something deeply positive in the survivor’s life, in both the new-found connection with his daughter and a continuing deep love with his deceased friend. His grief had great value that made him reach out to his family. Even that little, undeveloped glimmer of hope which, in contrast to what else he had experienced, seemed to me the promise of eventual fulfillment for the character. My friend Terry didn’t feel it at all, but rather sank into the bleakness of the author’s characters and the setting’s spare resources. He left the movie feeling no hope. Perhaps he really enjoys tragedies while I really want comedy. But more importantly I believe I saw the movie from the point of view of my own gay experience. While I deeply loved a couple of men through the years of my straight odyssey, I also lived a strange, spare realty—one in which increasingly I desired a gay relationship of open shared affection. I wanted to be nurtured by it, by a man. I held onto the images, the friendships I had, the literature I read, even some pornography, but through a sense of self control patiently nurtured my friendships and loved myself. I really wanted more and eventually went to find it.

My search was consequential, but my life was not bleak. Still, deep within there was a Wyoming kind of windblown, cold, lonely world, aspects of which could be seen even in my childhood. Gay boy loses straight friend after years of playing together; their worlds diverged. His same-sex needs persisted but he didn’t find anyone to share them with. As a young adult he found two gay male friends with whom he could share his own sexual narrative, but he didn’t pursue either as a lover. He had other friends but the gay ones always seemed more interesting. He watched other bisexual men but didn’t want their problems. Eventually he changed his life, took the great losses and the attendant grief. He was hurt but not destroyed.

You see, like Ennis Del Mar at the end of the movie, I stood in the trailer of my transience and examined the souvenirs of my life and loves and felt inspired and loved—even if imperfectly—and eventually hopeful. That’s how I saw Ennis. That’s how I saw myself. So, although observers of my not-strong straight approach to life may have been supposing no good would come of it, and although some pointed to the disruption of my vocation and marriage as proof they were right, they had no access in their depressed judgmental view of the deep joy that disruption led me to experience. I found in those changes silver linings and deep veins of golden treasures. I kept my souvenirs while I continued searching for gay love and meaning. I guess I am so much like my mother! I found my story.

© Denver, 2013



About
the Author

Phillip Hoyle lives in Denver and spends his time writing, painting, and socializing. In general he keeps busy with groups of writers and artists. Following thirty-two years in church work and fifteen in a therapeutic massage practice, he now focuses on creating beauty. He volunteers at The Center leading the SAGE program “Telling Your Story.”

He also blogs at artandmorebyphilhoyle.blogspot.com

No Good Will Come of It by Lewis

“No good will come of it,” usually prefaced by “believe me,” is a line I don’t believe I have ever used in ordinary conversation. I have read the line in books, heard it voiced on the silver screen or from a stage, and can imagine it spoken by a finger-wagging false prophet from an obscure pulpit or a domineering parent in an American backwater community. Typically, in my experience, the person to whom such an admonition is directed would proceed to do the very thing against which he or she has been warned, presumably motivated by the realization that the odds that said act would result in an outcome that the doer was hoping for have been measurably increased. 

In 99% of life’s daily situations, to announce as fact the conviction that doing act ‘a’ will inevitably lead to result ‘b’–‘b’ being shorthand for “bad”—is a presumption scarcely justified by the vast convolutions of possibility that life throws at us. Even to say to a person who has a cocked and loaded gun at their temple, “If you pull that trigger, no good will come of it,” may not be true in the opinion of everyone who knows the poor despondent in question. Or, the gun may misfire, in which case the owner at least knows not to rely on that particular weapon for protection against intruders.
If I were to say to you, as you are about to set fire to a stock certificate worth $10 million, “Surely, no good will come of that,” again, I would be liar, because its demise would mean that the value of every other shareholders holdings would thereby be increased.
Tell someone who is addicted that to imbibe would surely lead to no good, and they might respond, “But at least, I’ll feel better for awhile.”
Tell that to the boy who is about to throw the pet cat into a bathtub full of water and he might well answer, “But it’s funny.”
Tell the husband or wife who is about to have a fling with a third party and they might tell you to mind your own business.
In short, hardly anything good can come from saying to someone, “No good will come of it.” Either you may well lose the love or respect of your friend or you will prove to have been wrong. A better approach would be to express what, in your mind, the consequences of doing such-and-such will be and those consequences had better be ones over which you have control, such as “I will never speak to you again” (and mean it). This kind of trade-off the person you are admonishing can understand and actually has a chance of influencing their behavior.

© 5 May 2013

About the Author


I came to the beautiful state of Colorado out of my native Kansas by way of Michigan, the state where I married and I came to the beautiful state of Colorado out of my native Kansas by way of Michigan, the state where I married and had two children while working as an engineer for the Ford Motor Company. I was married to a wonderful woman for 26 happy years and suddenly realized that life was passing me by. I figured that I should make a change, as our offspring were basically on their own and I wasn’t getting any younger. Luckily, a very attractive and personable man just happened to be crossing my path at that time, so the change-over was both fortuitous and smooth.

Soon after, I retired and we moved to Denver, my husband’s home town. He passed away after 13 blissful years together in October of 2012. I am left to find a new path to fulfillment. One possibility is through writing. Thank goodness, the SAGE Creative Writing Group was there to light the way.

No Good Will Come of It by Nicholas

‘No good will come of it’—now that’s a really sweeping statement. Even bad things can have good consequences or side effects. But this is definite and universal. There is no hope, no chance of redeeming value. It’s a lost cause. Give up, get out, I’d turn back if I were you. Absolutely no good will come of it.

It’s hard to think of where this sweeping judgment could apply. Since the only absolute I really accept is to never say never, I am pressed to think of situations of no good whatsoever. Only a few situations come to mind and that surprises me because, as a pessimist, I am sure there must be plenty more.

One such situation is the closing of bookstores. There is no substitute to browsing bookshelves in stores and in libraries. You get to touch, handle and sample any part of the book you’re contemplating. You find other books that you never knew existed. Internet shopping can give thousands of titles in a flash but they’re just titles, most of which are irrelevant and planted by search engines paid to flaunt them. Looking for something on the Internet is like trying to find that postage stamp you mistakenly threw away in a garbage can. You have to plow through a ton of rubbish to find that little thing you need. This advance is not an improvement.

If that example is small, here’s a bigger one. Very clearly no good will, or has ever, come of the combination of politics and religion. Religion can sometimes produce good and even politics can sometimes produce good. But put the two together and, you can be sure no good will come of it. Uniting religious fervor and self-righteousness with political power is a recipe for disaster. Islam is showing us that now; Christianity had its romp with power and violence centuries ago. Christianity now is kind of a toothless tiger but countless millions had to suffer and die to take the teeth out of that tiger. Islam once saved Western Civilization from itself (see Christian violence above) but as it comes more to be identified with politics seems to have degenerated into being hardly civilized at all. Religion with power makes for no good.

Another situation from which no good will come is the arbitrary, unilateral use of military or covert violence by one nation against another or against individuals one government deems dispensable. I am a member of the nation currently most guilty of this offense. From toppling democratically-elected governments in the 1950s to suit US interests (i.e., oil and money) to trying to squelch popular revolutions for independence (e.g., Vietnam) to sending drones to pick off individuals designated as enemies, military power almost always creates situations worse than the ones it supposedly fixes. All those actions have generated more threats to American interests and security than did they stop. National self-interest can be its own worst enemy.

Jumping from commerce, theology and international relations to the personal level, repressing one’s sexual or gender identity guarantees that no good will come of it. One pays a steep price for tampering with something so basic and innate as trying to smother a natural and irrepressible side of personality. By tampering I mean refusing to be gay or lesbian or your true gender. Your own life can be reduced to emotional squalor and others’ lives around you will get caught in the back splash. It is simply dangerous not to be who you are.

This has really been more of a hodgepodge sermon than a story but I hope some good can come of it.

© May 2013

About
the Author

Nicholas grew up in Cleveland, then grew up in San Francisco, and is now growing up in Denver. He retired from work with non-profits in 2009 and now bicycles, gardens, cooks, does yoga, writes stories, and loves to go out for coffee.

No Good Will Come of It by Michael King


I don’t
think that statement, title or subject is true. My philosophy is very
different. I think that given the really, really big picture that good comes
from all things, all disasters, all terrorist activities to name enough to get
a few raised eyebrows and a few smirks. In all the happenings including the
most horrific, there will be those whose lives will have been changed or redirected
thus having the potential to influence others with the growth promotion and
maturity that comes with life changing experiences. Good has a way of
accompanying all experience. Humans can profit from others’ experiences.
Now from a
narrow perspective, as the mortals on this planet have such a long way to go to
actualize the idealism that might resemble the potentials of a perfect world,
we see evil and iniquity, graft and corruption, lies and propaganda, dirty
politics and corrupt corporations, vice and prejudice, hatred and subjugation;
I could go on. From this perspective there is great difficulty to see where
good can or will come of these kinds of effects on people’s lives.
We seem to
think that the victims of this world are deprived of something. They are,
however in the larger picture, there is only good. There is only the eventual
achievement of perfection.
And I will
define the perfection that I am talking about. I was an art therapist at a
residential treatment center for asthmatics and had as many as 110 kids doing
arts and crafts at any given time. One day the kids were working with clay,
this is probably the best therapeutic tools for hand-eye coordination an area
where many asthmatics as children didn’t develop as other kids did. In child
development in which I had much training, this deficiency is very common with
childhood asthma.  Using clay to create
an image of one’s desire is the challenge. 
This was a very successful program of which I am very proud. The results
were life changing for those residents. As I observed a room full of kids
working with clay to achieve an imagined result there was total silence. I saw
that every child was in a state of perfection relative to his or her ability
and capability to visualize and each of them was totally focused on the desired
result. That was a moment that brought about a major revelation in my life.
Perfection is relative.
I know that
it may take an eternity to understand that there is only good, only truth, only
love, only beauty, therefore as we have a challenging experience or see the reports
of disasters, etc. I have to see that in the long run eventually only good
exists and only for the growth potential that is the purpose of all experience.

So you now
see why only good will comes of it. I am not without having had numerous
disastrous and greatly challenging experiences. I only see the goodness, the
truth, the beauty and the superficial ugliness around me. I see those who
struggle without hope. You see reports of disasters on almost a daily
basis.  No good will come of it is a
pessimistic and unrealistic way to look at things when a much higher and more
optimistic opportunity is staring us in our face. I now have only good in my
life. Where I came from was quite the opposite and so were my confused
beliefs.  Previously I never thought any
good would come out of it when I was totally devastated. That happens but it is
always temporary. Right now is the opportunity to be the most positive and to
claim superb self-respect, the secret of maturity, happiness and maturation. In
all situations good will always come of it, we need only to view from that
perspective and develop that outlook. Our experiences will then have a depth
and meaning that expands our consciousness, enrichens our lives and gives
meaning to existence. 
© 6 May 2013

About the Author


I go by the drag name, Queen Anne Tique. My real name is Michael King. I am a gay activist who finally came out of the closet at age 70. I live with my lover, Merlyn, in downtown Denver, Colorado. I was married twice, have 3 daughters, 5 grandchildren and a great grandson. Besides volunteering at the GLBT Center and doing the SAGE activities,” Telling your Story”,” Men’s Coffee” and the “Open Art Studio”. I am active in Prime Timers and Front Rangers. I now get to do many of the activities that I had hoped to do when I retired; traveling, writing, painting, doing sculpture, cooking and drag.